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	<description>A guide to being middle class</description>
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		<title>Comment on Chipping Norton (Part Two) by Mortonman</title>
		<link>http://organicpeasandorderlyqueues.com/2011/05/06/chipping-norton-part-two/#comment-325</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live in the neighbouring Cotswold market town Moreton-In-Marsh (which is 8 miles from Chipping Norton) so know the area quite well.

To outsiders West Oxfordshire and the Gloucestershire Cotswolds are basically a tourist destination, however living here is another matter. Your description of Daylesford was spot on. I&#039;ve been twice and spent £13.00 on a 100gram bar of chocolate and a packet of 8 biscuits!! but made sure I wore designer clothes otherwise you really do feel out of place.

I&#039;ve never really liked Chipping Norton, find the people very aloof, the shops are rubbish &amp; overpriced and the place is too hilly, it&#039;s OK to look at, but is the ugly duckling compared to some of the other nearby Cotswold towns say like it&#039;s Chipping sister - Chipping Campden which is stunningly beautiful.

Most people in the Cotswolds are posh (some very nice, some not) really the same whatever class you are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the neighbouring Cotswold market town Moreton-In-Marsh (which is 8 miles from Chipping Norton) so know the area quite well.</p>
<p>To outsiders West Oxfordshire and the Gloucestershire Cotswolds are basically a tourist destination, however living here is another matter. Your description of Daylesford was spot on. I&#8217;ve been twice and spent £13.00 on a 100gram bar of chocolate and a packet of 8 biscuits!! but made sure I wore designer clothes otherwise you really do feel out of place.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never really liked Chipping Norton, find the people very aloof, the shops are rubbish &amp; overpriced and the place is too hilly, it&#8217;s OK to look at, but is the ugly duckling compared to some of the other nearby Cotswold towns say like it&#8217;s Chipping sister &#8211; Chipping Campden which is stunningly beautiful.</p>
<p>Most people in the Cotswolds are posh (some very nice, some not) really the same whatever class you are.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Chipping Norton (Part Two) by Richmonde</title>
		<link>http://organicpeasandorderlyqueues.com/2011/05/06/chipping-norton-part-two/#comment-320</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 23:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Movable/moveable, who cares? But &quot;plummy-nosed&quot;????? My dear young man, don&#039;t you know toffee-nosed people have plummy voices?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Movable/moveable, who cares? But &#8220;plummy-nosed&#8221;????? My dear young man, don&#8217;t you know toffee-nosed people have plummy voices?</p>
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		<title>Comment on *Daylesford news flash* by Newshound</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 12:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It never ceases to amaze me how many column inches in newspapers, magazines and just about anywhere else are given to Daylesford Organics or whatever it’s called. For some reason editors and hacks seem to think it’s the new centre of the universe or at least the Cotswolds and it’s the Cotswolds version of ‘arrods’ if they set their satnavs to Chipping Norton it takes them to Daylesford or Daylesford they get Chippy and think the locals are in awe of celebrities and the rich and famous in their midst.

So Sam this is the secret of Daylesford - Daylesford is a meeting place for the rich and famous, people who want to be famous and people who want to think their famous and want you to think they’re famous  by having  a cup of coffee alongside the “crowd”. The Hurley’s and the Winset’s who moved into the countryside thinking they are going to be an important member of the community and to show off to anyone their new lover/husband/someone else’s husband and no one’s going to bother them have come to realise that no one gives a rats-arse who they are, so they have to be seen somewhere, add to that the rich who are not famous but like to be seen in the company who are.

As Gerry mentioned nobody actually shops there, why on earth anyone would pay £16 for a breast fed chicken I don’t know, mind you people have been known to spend £50 on a few bits just to say they have rubbed shoulders with Samantha Cameron, which brings me back to Chippy while the “I shop where its posh” set go to Daylesford to rub shoulders with the likes Samantha and et al , in reality Dave joins the queue like everyone else in Chippy and shops in Sainsbury’s where nobody bothers him recognises him or gives a toss, that is the reason for him living here,  personally if I want to catch a glimpse of Dave  I wouldn’t spend 70 grand on a Range Rover to be “seen” at Daylesford I would wait until Dave’s in Sainsbury’s, plus I can buy a chicken for a fiver.

One other thing Sam, Chippy have had the famous and not so rich in our midst for years, Keith Moon the loon from the Who once owned the Crown &amp; Cushion Hotel who after his hangers-on had gone was actually normal, on one occasion upon his arrival in town in his pink Rolls Royce parked in the car park full of birds with the music cranked up loud was told by a friend I was with ‘you can turn that f****** row down’ which he did, plus there are many others around from stage and screen who I can’t be bothered to mention.
Welcome to Chipping Norton Sam.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It never ceases to amaze me how many column inches in newspapers, magazines and just about anywhere else are given to Daylesford Organics or whatever it’s called. For some reason editors and hacks seem to think it’s the new centre of the universe or at least the Cotswolds and it’s the Cotswolds version of ‘arrods’ if they set their satnavs to Chipping Norton it takes them to Daylesford or Daylesford they get Chippy and think the locals are in awe of celebrities and the rich and famous in their midst.</p>
<p>So Sam this is the secret of Daylesford &#8211; Daylesford is a meeting place for the rich and famous, people who want to be famous and people who want to think their famous and want you to think they’re famous  by having  a cup of coffee alongside the “crowd”. The Hurley’s and the Winset’s who moved into the countryside thinking they are going to be an important member of the community and to show off to anyone their new lover/husband/someone else’s husband and no one’s going to bother them have come to realise that no one gives a rats-arse who they are, so they have to be seen somewhere, add to that the rich who are not famous but like to be seen in the company who are.</p>
<p>As Gerry mentioned nobody actually shops there, why on earth anyone would pay £16 for a breast fed chicken I don’t know, mind you people have been known to spend £50 on a few bits just to say they have rubbed shoulders with Samantha Cameron, which brings me back to Chippy while the “I shop where its posh” set go to Daylesford to rub shoulders with the likes Samantha and et al , in reality Dave joins the queue like everyone else in Chippy and shops in Sainsbury’s where nobody bothers him recognises him or gives a toss, that is the reason for him living here,  personally if I want to catch a glimpse of Dave  I wouldn’t spend 70 grand on a Range Rover to be “seen” at Daylesford I would wait until Dave’s in Sainsbury’s, plus I can buy a chicken for a fiver.</p>
<p>One other thing Sam, Chippy have had the famous and not so rich in our midst for years, Keith Moon the loon from the Who once owned the Crown &amp; Cushion Hotel who after his hangers-on had gone was actually normal, on one occasion upon his arrival in town in his pink Rolls Royce parked in the car park full of birds with the music cranked up loud was told by a friend I was with ‘you can turn that f****** row down’ which he did, plus there are many others around from stage and screen who I can’t be bothered to mention.<br />
Welcome to Chipping Norton Sam.</p>
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		<title>Comment on All in the ghetto by everyone knows a Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[everyone knows a Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 09:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i&#039;ll just leave this here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L4iH89tjAM

the album is worth a listen (called bud,sweat and bears)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ll just leave this here</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://organicpeasandorderlyqueues.com/2011/01/20/all-in-the-ghetto/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/1L4iH89tjAM/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p>the album is worth a listen (called bud,sweat and bears)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Chipping Norton (Part Two) by samjordison</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 08:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did enjoy them! Thanks... And they&#039;re a very useful corrective. Much appreciated. Obviously, there&#039;s plenty more to Chippy than meets the eye. It&#039;s an interesting thing about the Cotswolds in general that until relatively recently they weren&#039;t posh at all... and now...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did enjoy them! Thanks&#8230; And they&#8217;re a very useful corrective. Much appreciated. Obviously, there&#8217;s plenty more to Chippy than meets the eye. It&#8217;s an interesting thing about the Cotswolds in general that until relatively recently they weren&#8217;t posh at all&#8230; and now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Chipping Norton (Part Two) by everyone knows a Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[everyone knows a Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 08:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[chippy isn&#039;t a middle class town.  It is, well maybe was a working class town which has been invaded, by the wealthy, middle class types, desperate to escape, their overwhelmingly depressing concrete jungles.   Bliss Mill is a good example of Chipping Nortons working class heritage, although having said that, it’s now been converted into flats, sorry I mean fancy apartments, in-habited by many of the local middle classes (Can’t have them mixing with the underprivileged people can we?!)
 (You may note from my inferior use of the English language that I am merely a peasant dweller of Chipping Norton, rather than one of the cuckoo like, middle class invaders, who have set up residence due to Chipping Norton having excellent transport options into the ‘big smoke’)
Had you stuck around for a weekend evening you would have seen the local youth, congregating around the town hall, listening to illegally downloaded Dizzie Rascal on their mobile phone speakers, as you venture down to one of the local pubs (and I don’t refer to any of the fancy wine bars or pseudo ‘ye olde pubs’) you would be in no doubt, that Chipping Norton is a million miles away from being ‘posh’ or ‘middle class’.
Yes it has some very, very posh people; it also has its fair share of scag-heads, wasters and scallywags.  There are also plenty of average working class people too (White people, Black people, Asian, even mixed race people too, but then I guess this demographic is true of most towns, throughout the UK.)
As for the shops, they are pretty diverse, you can get almost anything you want, albeit at a premium, when compared to the prices you would pay in the doldrums, of near-by large town Banbury.  Speaking of premiums, this brings me onto house prices.  Yes, the prices are sky high, but that’s the price you pay for appealing to the more well-heeled individuals in society (the ones who aren’t quite affluent enough to live in the more scenic Cotswold locations of Burford, Stow on the Wold, Bourton on the water or Bibury)
I do hope you have enjoyed my tongue in cheek reply as much as I have enjoyed reading your blog on Chippy and Daylesford farm shop, even if some of your observations on Chippy were a little off the mark in my opinion.  Daylesford was spot on, mind :-p]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chippy isn&#8217;t a middle class town.  It is, well maybe was a working class town which has been invaded, by the wealthy, middle class types, desperate to escape, their overwhelmingly depressing concrete jungles.   Bliss Mill is a good example of Chipping Nortons working class heritage, although having said that, it’s now been converted into flats, sorry I mean fancy apartments, in-habited by many of the local middle classes (Can’t have them mixing with the underprivileged people can we?!)<br />
 (You may note from my inferior use of the English language that I am merely a peasant dweller of Chipping Norton, rather than one of the cuckoo like, middle class invaders, who have set up residence due to Chipping Norton having excellent transport options into the ‘big smoke’)<br />
Had you stuck around for a weekend evening you would have seen the local youth, congregating around the town hall, listening to illegally downloaded Dizzie Rascal on their mobile phone speakers, as you venture down to one of the local pubs (and I don’t refer to any of the fancy wine bars or pseudo ‘ye olde pubs’) you would be in no doubt, that Chipping Norton is a million miles away from being ‘posh’ or ‘middle class’.<br />
Yes it has some very, very posh people; it also has its fair share of scag-heads, wasters and scallywags.  There are also plenty of average working class people too (White people, Black people, Asian, even mixed race people too, but then I guess this demographic is true of most towns, throughout the UK.)<br />
As for the shops, they are pretty diverse, you can get almost anything you want, albeit at a premium, when compared to the prices you would pay in the doldrums, of near-by large town Banbury.  Speaking of premiums, this brings me onto house prices.  Yes, the prices are sky high, but that’s the price you pay for appealing to the more well-heeled individuals in society (the ones who aren’t quite affluent enough to live in the more scenic Cotswold locations of Burford, Stow on the Wold, Bourton on the water or Bibury)<br />
I do hope you have enjoyed my tongue in cheek reply as much as I have enjoyed reading your blog on Chippy and Daylesford farm shop, even if some of your observations on Chippy were a little off the mark in my opinion.  Daylesford was spot on, mind :-p</p>
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		<title>Comment on Chipping Norton (Part Two) by samjordison</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 13:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think, all in all, you made the right decision. That&#039;s not to say that Kettering wasn&#039;t fun though!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, all in all, you made the right decision. That&#8217;s not to say that Kettering wasn&#8217;t fun though!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lewes by Chipping Norton (Part 3) &#8211; guest post. Also, a request &#124; Organic Peas And Orderly Queues</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 12:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] had a very interesting time visiting Slough, Lewes, and Crouch End in my bid to meet as many glocals as possible&#8230;  I&#8217;ve got a few more [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Crouch End (with preliminary rambling about Shoreditch) by Chipping Norton (Part 3) &#8211; guest post. Also, a request &#124; Organic Peas And Orderly Queues</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 12:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] had a very interesting time visiting Slough, Lewes, and Crouch End in my bid to meet as many glocals as possible&#8230;  I&#8217;ve got a few more places in my [...]]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 12:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] had a very interesting time visiting Slough, Lewes, and Crouch End in my bid to meet as many glocals as possible&#8230;  I&#8217;ve got a few [...]]]></description>
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